"At least now everything I have said can be
authenticated including the ridiculous and biased nature of the reviews. Now
people will know the truth and that we did pass peer review.” (Melba Ketchum)
"Extraordinary claims
require extraordinary evidence." (Anonymous Ketchum Reviewer)
"Extraordinary evidence requires extraordinary review." (Haskell Hart)
"Hindsight is
20/20." (Anonymous)
Dr. Melba Ketchum first submitted
her famous paper (link at right) to Nature which rejected it on November
1, 2012, based on comments of four reviewers and after she first
tried to satisfy their requests in a second round. She then
submitted the paper to Journal of Advanced Multidisciplinary
Exploration in Zoology (JAMEZ), which she claims accepted it after
some revisions.
Much has been made of
the history of the defunct journal, Journal of Advanced
Multidisciplinary Exploration in Zoology (JAMEZ), sometimes called
redundantly Journal of Advanced Zoological Exploration in Zoology by
Scott Carpenter (see link to his blog at right), and its successor DeNovo,
and whether in fact Dr. Melba Ketchum purchased the former to acquire the
rights to her "peer reviews" so she could tout them in
her own publication DeNovo, where her paper appeared. This
debate is not about science, and will be left to others. Instead we focus
here on the content of the peer reviews, taken as scientific
criticism and evaluated at face value in the light of
current knowledge of the Ketchum study based on my in depth analyses in three
papers (see at right). In so doing we hope to answer the question of
whether her work was fairly evaluated.
Nature had four reviewers, one of whom admitted he was not a
geneticist (but then neither are Melba or her coauthors). JAMEZ had only two reviewers, which is not enough for
a paper of this import which is likely to be controversial. All the comments are combined and categorized here. There were 32 separate
numbered comments in all, which addressed 15 separate issues or
points of concern about the paper by my tally; one comment was positive (number 12 below). This is a lot
for one paper.
Others might categorize them
slightly differently, but I believe they would capture substantially the same
criticisms of the reviewers. Keep in mind that the JAMEZ reviewers
likely received a paper that was revised based on the comments of the Nature
reviewers. The tally of issues looks like this to me.
The Issues
In order of decreasing reviewer
consensus. Bold numbers in brackets are the number of reviewers (of
the six total) who concurred.
(1) Inadequately substantiated
thesis. Results do not support conclusions. [6]
(2) Results of genomic analysis
superficially treated. Results are not adequately
documented. More stepwise in depth treatment needed. Need more
information on analysis of whole genomes. Analytical credibility could be
improved by fully leveraging information from next generation
sequencing. Sequences should be available. Bioinformatics should include reference sequences from
expected contaminants. [4]
(3) Hominin not proven.
Primate a better term. [4]
(4) Phylogenetic trees not clear, inadequate, or give mixed results. [4]
(5) Concern about monitoring submitter contamination. Results indicate contamination. [4] Did avoid contamination. [1]
(6) S26 provenance murky at best. [2]
(4) Phylogenetic trees not clear, inadequate, or give mixed results. [4]
(5) Concern about monitoring submitter contamination. Results indicate contamination. [4] Did avoid contamination. [1]
(6) S26 provenance murky at best. [2]
(7) Selectively aggregated
sequences to support a favorable placement among primates. Reference sequence
bias in developing consensus sequence. [2]
(8) Poor agreement between
mtDNA and nDNA results across samples. S31 does not align with S26 and
S140. [2]
(9) Change "unknown" hair morphology to "novel." Should cross reference human morphology. Expected mistakes in hair identification made. Needs statistical analysis. [2]
(9) Change "unknown" hair morphology to "novel." Should cross reference human morphology. Expected mistakes in hair identification made. Needs statistical analysis. [2]
(10) Quality control is
difficult with contract labs. [1]
(11) S26 - ethics of shooting. [1]
(12) Q30 scores important. Seemed to justify publication. [1]
(13) Need better photographic evidence. Stick structures inappropriate. [1]
(14) mtDNA is all "poorly" human. Would expect some other lineages. [1]
(15) Unknown sequences more likely from unknown microorganism. [1]
(16) Electron microscopy suggests DNA damage. [1]
(12) Q30 scores important. Seemed to justify publication. [1]
(13) Need better photographic evidence. Stick structures inappropriate. [1]
(14) mtDNA is all "poorly" human. Would expect some other lineages. [1]
(15) Unknown sequences more likely from unknown microorganism. [1]
(16) Electron microscopy suggests DNA damage. [1]
Where to begin? Number 1 is the bottom line and will
fall out of the other criticisms. I
believe the key issues are numbers (2), (4), and (7), which are related . Here’s what the reviewers said about these issues:
1.
“The bioinformatics should include
gene sequences from expected outlier species that may also be capable of
contributing contaminating nucleic acids.”
2. “ The molecular genetics in this manuscript are
the most important and it would be important to include information regarding
the analysis of the whole genomes.”
3. “I would suggest the
authors ….build
phylogenetic trees with all possible mammal mtDNA genomes and nuclear data
available at genbank.”
4. “To make a compelling case I need seeing mtDNA genomes and
large numbers of nuDNA sequences that points(sic) in direction of a new hominin
species i.e. ape or human like without being identical to know(sic) species.”
5. “…. that several phylogenetic/gene trees
have been included, they desperately need redesigning, since the text on the
branches is so small that it can't be read without exceptional magnification.
As such, the trees are essentially useless.”
6. “Sequencing
data should be freely available to the scientific community after publishing
(even better, before).” (NOTE:
Sequencing data was unavailable to the Nature reviewers. When added, one JAMEZ reviewer made the
comment no. 7)
7. “The bioinformatics should include gene sequences from
expected outlier species that may also be capable of contributing contaminating
nucleic acids. For example, a BLASTN search using Sample 26 does turn up some
exceptionally strong homology with a gene from Ursus americanus (DQ240386.1).
This would support the idea that the consensus sequence may have been affected
by contaminant sequences.” (NOTE: Ursus americanus is the American black
bear.)
Just how did the Ketchum Team compare their
sequences to those of known species? Or
did they? Statements such as “Because
the global BLASTn demonstrated statistically significant alignment across the
Primate order; a Primate ‘Drill Down’ utilizing BLASTn with inclusive Primate
organism taxids was analyzed,” are not nearly discriminating enough. “Statistically significant alignment” needs
numbers and comparisons to back it up. Nowhere
does the paper describe a comprehensive set of BLAST™ searches against
databases of other animals such as I did in my first paper. Everything is referenced to human chromosome
11 with no indication of how well it
aligns. Furthermore restricting the
search to ”primate organism taxids” only results in tunnel vision and loss of
perspective. Such a procedure should be preceded
by more general searches and justified by hard numbers from these. It was not.
“As shown in Supplementary Figures 4, 5 and 6, the
Sasquatch consensus that showed homology to human chromosome 11 reference
sequence is related to primate lineages including Homo sapiens, Otolemur
garnettii, Pan troglodytes (Chimpanzee), Macaca mulatta (Rhesus Monkey),
Nomascus leukogenys (White cheeked Gibbon) and Callithrix jacchus (Common Marmoset)
and other primate species,”(from the Ketchum paper) is a false statement. Only Supp. Fig. 4 shows this
relationship. As I pointed out
previously (See my blog “Otolemur garnettii is No
Lemur and We're Not a Fish, a Chicken, or a Mouse”) Supp. Fig. 5 shows a
phylotree with a chicken, a mouse, and 29 species of FISH as nearest relatives.
Supp. Fig. 6 shows only the mouse. The paper does not say which figure goes with
which sample, but Supp. Fig. 4 is likely Sample 31, the human. I doubt the Ketchum team even translated the
Latin (scientific) species names in Supp. Figs. 5 and 6, or they would not have
published them without explanation. These
figures do not support the statement above.
In my first paper, Table 3, shows exactly the same result that was found in comment no. 7. At first, I didn’t think much of it because the matching sequence was relatively short compared to others I had matched (my Tables 1, 4, and 5). Later I realized that there is relatively little black bear data in the databases and that the giant panda and the polar bear are much better represented. Matches to these bears were much better than any primate (including human) matches for Sample 26 (See Table 1 in my first paper.).
Melba’s response to the no. 7
comment was: “…DQ240386 is statistically
significantly aligned with primates and carnivores. In fact, BLASTing
DQ240386- ring tailed cats of the raccoon family and seal have as much
alignment as Ursus americanus. The maximum score for raccoon and seal are about
850. Maximum score for Ursus americanus is about 900. Max score for Sample 26
is 538. This shows contamination bias.”
In her response Melba demonstrates the
taxonomy of the suborder Caniformia,
order Carnivora, which includes the
families:
- Ailuridae (Red Panda family)
- Canidae (dog, coyote, wolf, fox)
- Mephitidae (skunks)
- Mustelidae (weasel, mink, badger, martens and others)
- Odobenidae
(walruses)
- Otariidae (fur seals & sea lions)
- Phocidae (true seals)
- Procyonidae (raccoon, coati & olingo)
- Ursidae
(bears)
The gene (BDNF) contained in the sequence
mentioned by Melba is apparently highly conserved, so matches to a variety of Caniformia can be expected. HOWEVER, “The devil’s in the details.” Table 1 shows that the top matches of DQ240386 in the nucleotide database
are all bears.
Table 1. Matches to DQ240386.1 - Black Bear
| ||||||
ACCESSION
|
%ID
|
SPECIES
|
SAME
|
MIS
|
GAPS
|
SCORE
|
Sample 26
|
100
|
black bear
|
species
|
0
|
0
|
538
|
XM008686880.1
|
100
|
polar bear
|
genus
|
0
|
0
|
889
|
DQ093584.1
|
100
|
Asiatic black bear
|
genus
|
0
|
0
|
889
|
AY011500.1
|
100
|
brown bear
|
genus
|
0
|
0
|
889
|
AF002239.1
|
99.79
|
brown bear
|
genus
|
1
|
0
|
883
|
AF002240.1
|
99.17
|
Malayan sun bear
|
family
|
4
|
0
|
867
|
DQ240387.1
|
98.77
|
giant panda
|
family
|
6
|
0
|
870
|
GU931015.2
|
98.75
|
giant panda
|
family
|
6
|
0
|
856
|
GU931011.1
|
98.54
|
ringtail
|
suborder
|
7
|
0
|
850
|
DQ660197.1
|
98.54
|
ringtail
|
suborder
|
7
|
0
|
850
|
U56638.1
|
98.54
|
giant panda
|
family
|
7
|
0
|
850
|
GU931013.1
|
97.92
|
North American raccoon
|
suborder
|
10
|
0
|
833
|
GU931012.1
|
97.92
|
ring-tailed coati
|
suborder
|
10
|
0
|
833
|
GU167726.1
|
97.92
|
leopard seal
|
suborder
|
10
|
0
|
833
|
DQ660203.1
|
97.92
|
North American raccoon
|
suborder
|
10
|
0
|
833
|
DQ660202.1
|
97.92
|
crab-eating raccoon
|
suborder
|
10
|
0
|
833
|
GU174616.1
|
97.71
|
ringed seal
|
suborder
|
11
|
0
|
830
|
Notice that the %ID correlates with the taxonomic
relationship (same species, genus, family, or suborder) and that Melba’s
statements based on scores are too broad and lack sufficient discrimination.
This is a game of single percentages or tenths of a percent. The Ursidae
(bears) clearly match the reference black bear sequence DQ240386.1 BEST. Other matches, while good, are clearly not AS
good. Sample 26 has a lower score
because the sequence length is shorter; apparently the entire gene (BDNF) was
not sequenced in this sample.
No, there is no “contamination bias” here. In fact, the THE SAMPLE IS FROM A BEAR, as
proven by two independent laboratory analyses (Huggins,and Sykes at right) and my interpretation of Ketchum's nDNA
sequence in my paper 1, a fact missed by
the reviewer and by Melba, who said “…your example of bear contamination can be completely ruled
out considering none of the laboratories handling the samples have bear samples,“
a red herring, or possibly worse: a misleading diversion. And 97.71%ID is a genetic mile from 100%, another
fact not recognized by Melba. So
concludes issues (2), (4), and (7), which are all related.
Three more
issues are highly significant: (14) the
mtDNA is “poorly" human. This is what I
found (Paper 2) for eight of the 18 samples for which a complete mitochondrial
genome was determined. Specifically,
these samples contained too many extra mutations to fit neatly into the mtDNA Phylotree (see at right)
for human haplogroups. These eight
samples each had less than a 1% chance of being in the human population based
on their numbers of these extra mutations: 7-17.
The average for the haplogroup H1a is only 2.37. Additionally, eight of the remaining 11
samples for which only the HV1 region was sequenced had one extra mutation
each. So what are they? They’re still much closer to human than
anything else (>99.9%ID). It cannot
be determined whether they are of human origin but further evolved since a
hybridization event according to the Ketchum theory, or they simply contain
sequencing errors due to contamination.
In any case it’s incorrect to say that they are “completely human.” At best, they might be human mutants.
The best (by
score) sequence match to Sample 31 is a fungus and the second best appeared to
be a bacterium, so degradation as suggested in comment (15) is real. Melba privately recognized this to me, yet publicly
and in her responses to the reviewers she vigorously denies any degradation or contamination. This is related to issue (16): the electron
microscopy showing single-stranded DNA segments. I asked the microscopist coauthor, Prof.
Andreas Holzenburg of Texas A&M University, about possible explanations for
this, and he responded that he only takes pictures and does not engage in the
paranormal, which disappointed me (his name's on the paper). Melba
called the microscopy results “supporting evidence for the unusual behavior of
the amplified DNA.” But only viruses contain
single-stranded DNA; it’s never been found in other organisms, where it would
disrupt the known process of DNA replication.
In spite of Melba’s claims that standard forensic
techniques were employed, issues (6) and (13) point out that there is nothing
tying any of these samples to a specific identifiable animal. No wonder the results are so mixed. New species identification needs a holotype
or very convincing photos or videos to accompany a DNA sample. For example, Sample 26 was collected under two
feet of snow weeks after the reported shooting of a sasquatch in the general vicinity. Who can say that it was related to the
shooting since no whole body was found, only this small patch of fur and tissue?
Issue (8) also merits discussion. The three nuclear DNA sequences align as follows
with one another:
S31 vs. S26:
Query Cover (alignment) 8% of S31.
S140 vs. S26:
Query Cover 62% of S140.
S31 vs. S140:
Query Cover 8% of S31.
I pointed this out to Melba in April, 2013. These cannot be the same species. Sample 31 is especially far removed from the
other two. This made sense when I found
out that S26 was a bear, S31 a human, and S140 a dog. Notice that the bear and dog align better,
being more closely related.
I pointed out to Melba that hair diameter comparisons require statistical analysis (issue (9)). One cannot simply compare two samples and say with certainty whether they belong to the same population. A statistical distribution of the suspected population is needed, and preferably also of the target organism. Any two hair samples may be outliers. Standard statistical tests can determine the probability that a sample or collection of samples belongs to a specific population. She didn’t do this.
Lastly, issue (5) contamination is important, but
hard to prove, especially when some samples were misidentified. My third paper demonstrates multiple species
in some samples. What is the “origin”
and what is “contamination” can be difficult to answer, but in any case no new
species was proven to exist. A number of
specific gene sequences did not align with any species in several
databases. These may be examples of
issue (15) unknown microorganisms and mispriming, as pointed out by one
reviewer.
No wonder all six reviewers agreed on issue (1) Inadequately substantiated thesis. The results do not support the conclusions. This is precisely what I found in my papers - flawed interpretation of results.
Were these
reviews fair and unbiased? Based on the
results in my three papers, they were on target, although having the DNA
sequences available from the start would have made possible better
substantiated reviewer criticism in some cases, especially for the Nature reviewers. The paper didn’t provide the usual kinds of
evidence for a new species, so the reviewers did not recommend publication in
its final form. In some cases Melba was
able to satisfy relatively minor requests for semantic and other changes, but more
importantly the DNA sequences when carefully interpreted do not point to a new
species. This does not disprove the
existence of sasquatch, only that the Ketchum study does not prove its
existence.
I leave
you with the following quotation from Scott Carpenter (see his blog site at
right):
“I make a challenge to any one that
has access to the BLAST application. Take the supplemental attachments in Dr.
Ketchum's study that contain the raw DNA sequence data, convert those PDF files
into the correct format and then compare the sequences to the GenBank database
and see if there are any matches. We already know the data is good, it has been
produced by the University of Texas. Have the courage to run the BLAST search
and publish the results! Because you know they will show no match, that the
species represented in the data is a NEW species, a NEW homo sapiens
species a BIGFOOT..... “
Thanks, Scott, I did just that. Sample 26 is a bear. Sample 31 is human. Sample 140 is a dog. Nothing new here.
See my first paper. Now, Scott,
please take your own challenge and follow my procedures as outlined in my three
part blog on using BLAST™. Then show us
YOUR results. Until you do so, you have
no credibility. Walk the talk, please. Your University of Texas experts blew it, big
time. Ask them to review my papers as I did theirs and tell us what they said. I asked Melba to do this and she refused. I sent coauthor Dr. Fan Zhang of the University of North Texas my work, requested a response, and received none. These are not examples of the open mindedness and unbiasedness which Melba demands of others.
And no, Scott and Melba, “Accept for publication
with
revisions” which you refused to make does not "pass
peer review."
You said you checked the dna in genbank and found out that the samples were just dog and black bear. Did you test the mithocondrial dna or did you test the complete dna from the mother and father and that was just dog or black bear?
ReplyDeleteIf the sample is really just dog and black bear. Then the genome project was just biased research. It is hard to understand why they was that sloppy. They should have known if so that someone would find out eventually.
Carpenter says that all the mithocondrial dna was human on the mother side and that means it could not have been a bear or a dog. Was this wrong also?
ReplyDeleteI mean for the complete dna on sasquatch how can you say that the dna is from a bear or dog when the mithocondrial dna is human. If of course that is true. Was it really human all the 113 samples.?
But you say that many of them was contaminated or actually was a different animal. If the mithocondrial dna was contaminated how can the three samples then be suggested as a dog or a bear? If this was reevaluating the mithocondrial dna, I understand. JUst if so, very strange that it is possible to make bear dna a bigfoot! Especially if it is not contaminated.!
Also very strange that the group didnt check first if it was doghair or black bear before they tested the dna. I think many people can see what a black bear hair is or dog hear. People who are familiar with hunting and such would know. If it is true that the dnatesting is false it was very sloppy work by the team.
ReplyDeleteThere is some little-known evidence that there is no contamination in her samples: Ketchum tested the Bigfoot nuDNA for several human genes, the names of which you can find in the manuscript. MC1R (human/Neanderthal red-hair color gene) showed up in the Bigfoot nuDNA as did the human antigen gene TAP1 (most of the time) and the jaw muscle gene MYH16 (which when present showed only a human profile rather than an ape one).
ReplyDeleteNot discussed in the manuscript are the tests Ketchum did for the TYR gene, which is associated with skin pigmentation, and the HAR1 gene, which is a “human accelerated region” associated with human neurological development. The human skin color gene TYR and human brain gene HAR1 were not found in Bigfoot nuDNA. Now that in and of itself is very interesting.
If the samples really were just bear or coyote or bobcat smeared with human contamination, all of the human genes should show up all over the place. The peer-reviewers for Ketchum’s manuscript only wanted positive, not negative, results included for gene tests, so the TYR and HAR1 data are not discussed in the manuscript. However, you can see the remnants of it in the Supplemental Data 12 appendix. The bottom line is the Bigfoot nuDNA is missing some important human genes that should be there if the nuDNA were in fact simply contaminated with human DNA.
Furthermore, if the samples were simply bears, coyotes or whatever with no human contamination present, the human genes listed above would not be there at all.
How can there be human genes there that afre very specific for humans if it just was a black bear?
Another question is since they used for dna isnt that very unlikely that it is contamination. Since they test the root that is inside the hair does it really matter if it was a little bit contaminated on the surface of the hair?
ReplyDeleteThank you for your good questions! I get so few like yours here. You should read my book to answer many of your questions. First to be clear Family Tree DNA, which did the mtDNA testing, ONLY TESTS FOR HUMAN DNA. They only expect human DNA in their buccal swab kits. However, to prove this I sent them cat, dog, and horse buccal swabs, all of which yielded the response, "Failure to amplify and sequence." Their methodology is so sensitive that even traces of human DNA can be sequenced in a bulk of bear or dog, which is not sequenced. See the Cutino and Huggins reports in the right hand column here for results of bear DNA analyses and more on human DNA. I asked Melba Ketchum to repeat THEIR analyses, and she never replied.
ReplyDeleteThe nuclear DNA analyses of Samples 26, 31, and 140 did not come from hair samples, rather flesh, saliva, and blood, respectively. Other hair samples may or may not have had a root, as this detail is not found in the sample Table 1 of the paper. Even with a root, enough nDNA may not be available. mtDNA is 1000 to 10000X more prevalent in the cell. So given these facts, it's quite reasonable that human mtDNA and bear nDNA and mtDNA can be found in the same sample. The peer reviewers agreed with me on this: Contamination and degradation likely produced her anonymous results.
Chapter 15 of my book, and here as a blog, discusses hair microscopy. Indeed, Sample 26, the only one which had hair micrographs in the paper IS IN FACT FROM A BEAR! See:
Saturday, September 7, 2019
Ketchum (2013) Figure 5 Shows Sample 26 Hair to be from a Black Bear
Yes, they should have realized that, but their hair analyst said that it was not from a bear. My pictures are quite definitive.
As for nuclear DNA genes, I discuss this here and in my book. Actually, I BLASTed her sequences and they variously came up bear, dog, human, or unknown, so her published claims are false in some cases (See Chapter 14 of my book). Again, trace contamination could yield some human results. Incidentally one of her supposed nDNA gene sequences came up reverse strand of mtDNA, clearly due to degradation and subsequent reverse priming.
ReplyDeleteSee on here for more on contamination and degradation:
ReplyDeleteSaturday, September 7, 2019
Sample 26 mtDNA Electropherograms Show Degradation/Contamination
These are her Sample 26 electropherograms downloaded from the SGP website. I even found black bear NUCLEAR DNA in two of these.